Comments on: Boycott Whole Foods: Michael Kirschner

By: tw111

tw111 — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:47:31 +0000

This is typical class war bullshiite. I love Whole Foods, and they are getting even more support in my area since this stuff.

By: clif

clif — Mon, 07 Sep 2009 02:14:34 +0000

I understand what the CEO of whole foods is saying is to adopt a healthier lifestyle. At the same time, there’s an underlying theme that he’s trying to promote = “Buy whole foods for healthy life” that doesn’t sit well with me.

(Completely off topic)
Now, I boycott whole foods or organic foods for only one reason…

If you take all the farmland in the entire world and turned it into organic farmland to grown organic food, you can only feed 2/3 of the world’s population.

By: Michael David

Michael David — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 15:23:59 +0000

Thats it I’m boycotting Whole Foods because Jay and Jack say so… wait thats what the blog was about, wasn’t it?

By: Michael Kirschner

Michael Kirschner — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 04:59:05 +0000

Well what I meant when I classified WF as liberal I meant it is liberal friendly with the environmentally conscious and organic foods and all, they also support fair trade. But yeah I agree with you the last thing we need is to be divided over where we buy groceries

By: Michael Kirschner

Michael Kirschner — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 03:52:33 +0000

Thank you sawed universal health care has test cases throughout the world the US has the benefit of seeing what works and what doesn’t work and it seems as if that is standard to the modern democratic world

By: Michael Kirschner

Michael Kirschner — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 03:43:51 +0000

@mark what are you trying to say? Your comment seems to start out saying one thing and then it just rambles on to something else, when you want to make a good argument stay on track. I am assuming that you are trying to say that Universal health care will some how bankrupt the system, well guess what private health care is bankrupting families. And if you want to go after outrageous government spending why don’t you call out the governments military spending, the US spends more money than any other country in the world….COMBINED!!!!!!

By: Colleen

Colleen — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 03:32:18 +0000

Andy - I asked Jay to RT it because I wanted to get the post out there and active since we’ll be traveling all day tomorrow for a wedding in upstate NY that I’m in so there won’t be much action from me at all here until Sunday afternoon at some point. Send in something for our LOST talk this Monday YuBlog.org@gmail.com - this goes for everyone, too - just send in a quick little post about a topic and what you want discussed and we’ll get it goin’

By: Colleen

Colleen — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 03:23:02 +0000

I don’t get why we have to classify food stores as liberal or conservative. My parents are conservative and they don’t mind Whole Foods. I always had the thought it was ‘healthier’ foods, to be honest.

By: Michael Kirschner

Michael Kirschner — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 02:17:37 +0000

I will now definitely see Whole Foods in a different light, maybe not as the totally liberal establishment I thought it once was but I’m not going to stop shopping there just because of what the CEO said and that also doesn’t change the fact that the company still has a respect for the environment and still sells organic foods.

By: flawedprefect

flawedprefect — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 02:15:01 +0000

Hey Col,

Well put, I must say. A health system at its most basic must take care of the society’s poorest citizen. Here in Australia, we have the Medicare system. It is paid for by tax payers - a yearly payment of $365AU (a dollar a day) which comes out of your taxable income. This funds the system which provides free health care to everyone - not just the rich, or those who work and are covered by a health plan.

If you are of tax-paying age, you contribute. That’s the system. It is not socialist, it is how we do things in other areas anyways: our tax dollars fund public transport, road works, the salaries of public servants - a public health care system would simply be another right the average citizen is entitled to. Nothing socialist about it: Any democratic country with a tax system already has the system in place.

We have a two-tier system here: One is a public health care system, funded by the aforementioned tax dollar. It is the basic, default system.

The second, is private health cover, which is optional. Me and my wife have chosen this, to avoid paying the $365 levy, and to give us extra benefits for when we wish to start a family, or if either of us have to hospitalized for whatever reason - we’re covered. We pay this much like house and contents insurance, or car insurance. It’s a quarterly payment.

I disagree with Mackay’s “either or” philosophy. A government run, tax-payer funded health care system works. It does over here, it does in many European countries, it does in Canada. That’s not to say it’s perfect, but it’s far better than letting people die because they have no access to it.

What I do agree with in the article, is setting up an individual payment system - but as an optional extra. If you can afford it, pay for it. If you can’t: rest assured you’ll be taken care of anyways, because it comes out of the tax coffers - and why shouldn’t it?