Discuss: “Lost” Ep. 6.5 “Lighthouse”
23 February 2010
359 Comments
It’s time to share our questions, comments, and theories about this week’s episode of Lost, called “Lighthouse”. Will this episode shed more light on the “Sickness,” where Claire has been and what’s happening with Sayid? What about our newfound knowledge about “the numbers”?
Warning: This post WILL contain spoilers, so if you haven’t watched Lost yet, you will be spoiled!
[Editor's note: Due to some Internet troubles at work today, I was unable to upload the pictures of Matthew Fox from Sunset on the Beach. My apologies! They are all ready and set to go up tomorrow (Wednesday Feb. 24) morning, so please check back then!]
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Namaste bitches!
Let’s get ready to rummmmbbbbbblllllleeeeee!
Just got home. Just in time.
Right backatcha Boston
(+) Appendectomy scar
Previously on LOST….
Oh my he still has the appendix scar.
And no memory of it as a child
Jack: MY SON!!!!
Wait Jack has a son? Whaaaaaaaa?
:O Wow could they cast any one that looks more like Matthew Fox to play his son. And only doctors can get away with parking in a redzone.
Love the tic tac toe game!
Sorry Dad…wow.
Hurley take that damn red shirt off!
BIG DADDY WIDMORE’S ON HIS WAY!
I bet you that the person coming to the Island is either Widmore or Desmond but probably Widmore!! WOOT a war is coming!
Widmore coming to the island?
We can rule out the Jacob in Sayid theory now.
I could go for Wendy’s Bacon & Blue right now.
Okay, guesses for who’s coming to the island?
Is he going to help Widmore find the island?
This is where Hurley recites the numbers
Wait…I just realized this is episode 108 of the series….this has to be really important
Is Desmond coming?
Gotta be Desmond. Isn’t Lighthouse the name of the Dharma station back in the States?
@Manila: I had one of those earlier. Delicious!
“Watch the sox”….but he has a Dodger Stadium poster on his wall.
@Jeremy: It was written LindelCuse. So it probably will be.
You think David’s listening to Geronimo Jackson?
Man that kids looks a lot like Matthew Fox.
David’s just as whiny sounding as his dad in the other-verse.
I hate it when children are like that on TV
ha ha Boston only you would notice that
Why don’t the Temple Others look like they are preparing for a war with Smokey anymore?
Kitty and Snowdrop are the black and white kittens who appear in Through the Looking-Glass.
Looks like Jack is quite a cyclist. He’s got a recumbent excercise bike and a (crappy) mountain bike.
Jin’s leg doesntg look too good
He’s dead, Jin!
Whatever….Dirty Claire is hot.
Why doesn’t Claire react to Jin being fluent in English? I would have been.
Palin has nothing on Hugo when it comes to crib notes.
For a second, I thought Hugo was gonna spit some Japanese back out at him
@Boston: I was actually gonna say that same thing. Hahaha
You ever try to get Jack to do anything?
Hurley’s arm = screencap of the night
@Boston: agreed. Dirty CLaire is much hotter than regular Claire
That was way too easy. Shoutout to Hurley for the Jedi Mind Tricks
Hurley is as awesome as ever in this episode!
Wow that jacob sure does know how to manipulate… way to push Jack’s buttons.
@Boston @Matt Is it the fact she can exist in the wild? The hair? Or just the dirtyness? Hahaha
LOL Hurley & his Star Wars & Indy Jones.
@Manila I don’t know. I think its the shorter hair.
@Raf she had me at dirty boob
i see bad things happening with hurley writing things on his arm…lol one water drop and bye bye…and where did he find a pen?!!?
So is Jacob getting creepier by the minute or is it just me? Plus are these Dogenls Heroes deliberatley holding back info against his will?
Claire: WHERE IS AARON??? WHERE IS AARON???
where did she get “good” dynamite?
Don’t even tell me Dirty Claire is pretending that’s Aaron
Okay, that’s effin creepy.
That is effed up
Man I totally thought he was dead
the dingo ate my baby!
Uhoh, Kate’s in trooooooouuuuble.
Nutty Claire
Claire’s hut looks like the morning after Burning Man
wait…so he knows its his sister?
what’s with Jack’s hair? did he find a tub of gel on the island?
@Boston - he found out it was his sister when he went to her funeral and her aunt told him that Christian Shephard was her daddy too
Jack’s a surgeon right? You would think he would have a cooler car
oh yeah…he knew last season (dumb boston)
He has since his Dad’s funeral Chris… in the “real” timeline
@Boston: It’s post Ajira crash Jack. Claire’s mom was at his Dad’s funeral after the Oceanic 6 were found.
yeah he found out when he went back with the rest of the oceanic six.
Jack’s Old Bronco has a right tire going flat(passenger side).. LOL I like tires.. so I noticed it…
My Older sister had a pink bronco like Jack’s
Add Jack’s mom to the bad wig club…
Colleen! Welcome back. Hope you’re feeling better.
I hope she kills this guy
ohh shit, that’s a deep cut…
Jay’s gonna go crazy with “Where’s my baby” tonight haha
Man in Locke is her friend?
Team Dirty Clair!
i thought she was gonna amputate there for a minute
Too many freakin commercials
Okay now its really bothering me that she isn’t asking him how he can speak English
so she’s friends with smokey?
Ok…anyone know Arabic? The files Jack’s mom was flipping through had Arabic writing on the folder tab!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lizzie Littleton
So Jin wasn’t speaking English by the end of season 4? When did Claire get separated from them?
On a side note, I love this Old Spice commercial…”I’m on a horse!” haha idk, it cracks me up. Maybe it’s all the sinus meds I’m taking
@ChrisInBoston I knew I wasnt the only one that saw that
Claire’s accent sounds different. Didn’t Jin know after all this time that Kate took Aaron?
@chrisinboston, i saw that folder too…wonder Sayid is involved somehow with Christian
Jin was on the freighter when it blew up … he didn’t know that Aaron was on the helicopter with kate
I thought Jin’s leg was a goner. That was a nasty cut. I have a bad feeling Kate and Jack might not see each other again. The music sounded a little ominous.
Jin only learned English in the 70s with the others. or at least his current high fluency level.
Adam and Eve
@Colleen Me too
@Jeremy Probably just one of those things that isn’t going to be addressed
Adam and Eve!
Adam and Eve!!!
Naw that’s just a flesh wound. Don’t amputate unless there’s chance of severe sepsis ala Boone!
OH SNAP THE INHALER!!
ADAM & EVE!!
Adam and Eve! Yes!!
aaaaahhhhhh I LOVE HURLEY!!!! “What if these skeletons are us?!” aahhhhhhh AWESOME NOD TO THE FANS.
I see Lost rebuilt the caves…Darlton said they took the caves out so they could build the hatch.
hurley had a nice adam and even connection…
Hurley’s got the right idea abt who ends up as Adam and Eve. Darlton better come through and answer that one
Jack: MY SON!!!! DAAAAAAAAAAVIIIIIIIIIIIID!!!!
I would consider marrying Jack simply to live in that sick nasty apartment…
so this is the first time we hear about this david kid right?
True, but he was at least learning English in 2004 so it might not be a surprise to Claire because of that
and the mother is…
Who is David’s mom?
Wouldn’t he know through Sawyer? They were on the island for 3 years…
10 bucks says Penny’s the mother!
i wonder who the mother is..
Wow, jack is as good a parent as Kate.
10 Bucks it’s Libby
Jack’s scar is on the wrong side! Is he a mirror image?
dont you break apart Dez and Penny!!
I’m gonna go Anna Lucia
Old school indeed. Brings back Season 1 memories
Oh, I hope Penny’s not the mother! It’s probably Sarah and they aren’t showing Julie Bowen because she was too busy being awesome on Modern Family lol
@Mark. It was on his right side and he was looking into a mirror.
Seriously?!! How did they never see that
Hahaha!
How come we’ve never seen it before?
My words exactly Jack…lol I just said tht.
Kate’s going to find them
So the lighthouse iisss on the island!!
Claire got the Sayid treatment
Oh yeah. Kate’s in real trouble now.
Woah Claire and Juliet are both branded.
why did he wait so long to tell her!! lol
Jin knows. She’s probably gonna go crazy when she sees Kate.
i was hoping Clair would kill him!
So Jin knew abt Aaron
Whoa. Alright. New rule: Don’t piss off Claire
Claire vs. Kate = ultimate LOST Catfight
@Jlyn: I think the brand is the same test that Sayid went through the other weak. The hot poker to the skin after the spreading of ashes.
My jaw hasn’t been on the ground like that since Michael shot Libby and Ana Lucia.
My money’s on Claire….that is unless Kate climbs in a tree and hides
I’m calling it Claire is going to kill Kate
More hints at the idea of a mirror image: Jack looking at his reflection in the water, and David reading Alice Through the Looking Glass!
so i guess that wasn’t really hr kate saw off-island that night in aaron’s room when she told kate she couldn’t bring him back.
Everyone on this show has serious daddy issues.
@Mark Heil - Good catch! I like that idea of the mirror image
Looks like the same Hawaii location they shot Hurley about to jump into the seas in dave and where Ben showed Sawyer the view from Alcatraz.
THE PIANO HAD THE SAME SYMBOL AS THE ONE ON THE TEMPLE WALL!!!!!!
Is Jack gonna cry?
10 bucks one of the recital judges is Ben.
The hurley and jack discussion walking through the jungle… is this the first time that the losties actually talked to each other about waht they know…. never saw a conversation like that in the first 5 seasons.
Dogan!!!
Son of a bitch that’s Dogen
David is just as annoying as his Dad.
duuude
OH SNAP!!!
OMG!!!!!! Sideways Dogen
so who is that guy?
108 degrees!!!
Looks like an unfrozen donkey wheel
108!
108!
woah…all the crossed off names!
Are those names crossed out next to the degree markings?
Yes they are
Korean temple reflection
And each of the degree headings is a name.
More screencaps.
i saw austen on the numbers!
So that mirror is weird.
So who’s Number 108????????
The Looking Glass…….
Kate was not invited? Claire looking for Kate now. Can’t end well for Kate.
Holy crap that is creepy! (Jack’s childhood house)
So will they show us 108 please
CRY JACK, CRY!
Oh yeah Jack, think without acting again.
JACK YOU SON OF A BITCH!
Jack is impulsive. Who is 108?
Did we ever find out the “composer” that created the song that unlocked the signal from the looking glass? Could it be David?!
Wow…Jack is pissed.
i really thought hurley was a gonner
Who’s 108!???? Please tell us!!!!
So did Jacob specifically tell Hurley to bring Jack b/c he knew Jack would react like that and wanted the mirror broken? But if thats the case, why not just tell Hurley to break the mirrors. I’m talking myself out of my own theories here…
Ok so seriously. The symbol on the brick that hurley had to find the secret passage, was the same symbol on the front of the piano David was playing.
I’m calling it now.. 108 - Hume
Did anybody see who was 108?
I think thats exactly what Jacob wanted Jack there for. Fake Locke enlightened Sawyer so Jacob countered that move by letting Jack see the truth. It really is like a game and they are all the players
i wonder who’s name is 108?
Jack, you idiot, do you really need the million years of bad luck you’ve incurred upon yourself?
You see it’s episodes like these that make me hate Jack.
More questions instead of answers! Darlton’s driving me crazy.
now jack will never know if his crackpot theory was right!! oh the horror!!
@fawkes - where did you see her? If you or anyone finds it, let me know so I can text it to them before they start recording since it’s been a big topic of podcasting lately. They start around 10:45pm EST
Okay, do any of the guys out there use body wash? I’m an unrepentant bar soap user.
@Raf best comment of the night
did anybody see exactly what jack saw in the mirror? i missed it
@noelle - he saw his childhood home
@Raf I meant that for the mirror comment
so…by jacob wanting Jack to break the mirrors, Jacob didnt want the visitor to come to the island?
OH FYI - this “V” commercial about “Lost” played at Sunset on the Beach before the premiere started.
@Raf….i’m a bodywash-er
seriously, a little more investigation next time, JACK!
So Jacob was following them all along, that’s how he got them all to the island, by playing with their lives. So that’s what DWG meant by asking Jacob how he got them all to the island.
@Raf body wash only on my face. bar soap for the rest
@Colleen i think it was just as Hurley was pulling the cord…right around there…i may have just been too excited and made it up but i dont have a DVR to play it back
no i mean the first time. it was some dark color. i thought maybe it was a ship. it was before he turned it to 23.
Bring on the waterworks, Jack
is jack about to cry
maybe jack had to be there, because hurley could have been tempted by the dark side, so to speak, if he went out alone.
did hurly just rub off some of the directions on his forehead?
the ink keeps moving!
@fawkes I’ll try to go back and find it right around that time. Thank you!
Jacob reminds me a lot of Obi Wan Kenobi. Talks in riddles. Appears from time to time to certain people. Sees things from a certain point of view.
If I were Jin, I’d choose my words very carefully
Dharma Nalgene!
Oh goodness, Jin is so stupid.
stop the lies, jin
Kate is a dead woman.
LOCKE!
ohh FUCK!!
oh god of course they couldnt say his name…
John & Claire = CREEPY!
So where the hell is Sawyer?
SAY HIS NAME!!!!!!!!!!
This is my friend…..WHO…. what is his name!!!!?
Listener since your first episode, first time poster (?)! Anyway, great episode, though not as mindblowing as last week’s.
The parallels between Season 1 and Season 6 are really starting to become clear now. All of the corresponding episodes have had the same “centric-ness” (if you count both the Pilot and LA X as multicentric) but the general themes and situations are aligned too. Like for tonight’s episode: “White Rabbit” is where we first discover the caves and see Adam and Eve and, after an absence of several seasons, we finally see them both again “Lighthouse”. It really seems like the flashsideways are where we finally find the characters’ redemption. Kate, previously set entirely on running away, learns to stick with someone through her experiences with Claire. Locke finally comes to terms with his disability. Jack learns to deal with his own daddy-issues through his relationship with his son.
These parallels beg the question of how long they can keep this up though. Next week could certainly be Sun-centric and, assuming Charlie gets an episode, most of the first half of S1 centric-ness would work pretty well (Sun, Charlie, Sawyer, Sayid, Claire, in that order). However, Hurley’s episode would be nowhere to be found and we also have to keep in mind Richard or even Jacob/Smocke-centric episodes.
It would appear that Claire talking about “her friend” (Man in Locke) and “her father” (Christian) as separate people would indicate that Christian was never a manifestation of Smokey. However, I think it’s more likely Man in Locke was simply using both personas to interact with Claire and convince her that the Others have Aaron (two people are more persuasive than one).
Other thoughts:
- The fact that Hurley points out the popular theory that Adam and Eve are main characters having time-travelled can either be a giant red-herring by the producers or a not-so-subtle acknowledgement that fan theories about Adam and Eve have been right all along. Either way, we’ll hopefully find out soon!
- Claire’s Fake-Baby-Skull-Thing = Polar Bear Skull? (certainly look similar, though one’d have to wait for screencaps to confirm: http://www.alaska-in-pictures.com/data/media/2/bear-skull_960.jpg)
- Hurley seems to confirm that Kate isn’t important to Jacob after all. I guess it’s because she didn’t follow Jacob’s instructions to “Be Good, Katie” (blowing up your dad isn’t really good).
- Nice touch: Key to Sarah’s house hidden under a white rabbit
- Jack’s final scene with “David” and with the mirrors in the lighthouse was amazing acting by Matthew Fox. So many Emmy-worthy performances this Season - loving it!
One more thing:
Claire stopped saying MAIII BAYBEEE and started saying “My Son!” … let’s hope to not have a Michael-esque thing going on.
Hey it’s Bernard!!!
The Subway conductor!!!
haha bernard is on the next show
Ha ha I found Bernard…He’s on the Forgotten.
How did they get out of the cave if the ladder broke? Did Sawyer ride on the Smoke Monster like a magic carpet
Oh…no…
I really think that Jacob/MIL have a God/Devil thing going on. I had a 7 hour plane ride back from London to NY and 3 more hours worth of flights from NY to Raleigh and out of all the shows I listened to and theories that I read during that time, I tend to agree with the people who point out the way that the devil and MIL have similar ways of operating…
man i thought claire’s friend would be the 3rd player in the game. ugh! but what does it mean that she recognizes the locke-ness monster as itself but he’s been around for the past 3 yrs? so confused!
I’m not a big fan of the teaser promo.
Or he left Sawyer in the cave
that ending makes perfect sense. Not many answers though. we need fake Locke’s name!!!
@ noelle good question, has he always been Locke to Claire?
lol. i thought the promo was funny. like there was some error or something. haha “we can only show you a few seconds” whatever…
Jacob has grown a lot on me in this past episode.
@fawkes maybe he is appearing to her as himself, but to everyone else as locke?
What if Man In Locke needs whoever is coming from outside as a way off the island/a way to “get home”??
Don’t even have words to describe my feelings right now…Must go watch again. : ) My initial reaction is Whaaaaat??!!
So I paused the ‘ol DVR, and 108 appears to be “Wallace” and is crossed off…
Even funnier is 109…”Friendly”
who do we know as wallace?
Note to self.
When trapped on an island in the South Pacific, fully explore all parts of the island. That way, I will not be surprised 5 Seasons later that there is an Alexandria-like Lighthouse on said island.
Could Walt be a shorter name for Wallace?
Wallace?
Does that mean Mel Gibson is coming?
Claire referred to her father AND her “friend.” Then she clearly knew that MIL was NOT Locke. It seems strange that if MIL was Christian she wouldn’t recognize him as her “friend” when she knows MIL is not Locke. Are they hinting that Christian is not MIL or is Claire clueless and MIL was playing a game w/ her?
Pretty sure that Nalgene bottles weren’t around until long after the DHARMA Initiative. Was Claire shopping at the ABC store online?
Hurley has ink on his forehead b’c Shephard was just recently written there?
Crackpot theory - it was probably really Austin and Jack is gonna die and she’s going to have his baby in his house.
Thought tonight’s episode “The Lighthouse” was great. I loved the Jack and Hurley scenes and the back story of Claire.
108 - Wallace (who is that?)
here are some of the names in the lighthouse:
17 - Linus
20 - Rodrigues (anna lucia?)
09 - Friendly
10-
11 -
12 - Horten
13 - Worden
14 -
15 - Baegas
16 - Lambert
17 - Linus (Ben)
18 - Shauer ?
19 - Almeida
20 - Rodriquez
21 - Nielson
122
@Birger: Great analysis. Good catch about Claire’s “father” and “friend” being two different people. Although it’s probably going to end up being Smokey in two personas, I’m wondering if Claire can see him as HIM and not as Christian Shephard and John Locke. She didn’t even seem to recognize him as Locke.
P.S. Your last sentence made me laugh lol
I can’t wait for Jorge’s podcast to see what he thought about this when he got the script.
Sawyer’s stuck in the cave Silence of the Lambs style. It puts the lotion in the basket.
@Stefanie..
Your numbers are a tad off..They are all in the 100 range. i.e. Linus is 117.
Perhaps 119 is a shout out to Tony Almeida of 24 fame?