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Discuss: “Lost” Ep 3.10 “The Package”

30 March 2010 333 Comments

It’s time to share our questions, comments, and theories about this week’s episode of Lost, called “The Package”.  Will we get more Sideways story?  Will we learn more about Richard, Jacob, and MIB?  How did Jin get in that freezer?

Warning: This post WILL contain spoilers, so if you haven’t watched Lost yet, you will be spoiled!

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  • Stefanie said:

    woooo hooo can’t wait to start discussing “the package” Just watching poor Shannon Dougherty get kicked off of dancing with the stars. sorry spoiler alert…

  • Colleen (author) said:

    All that bad day stuff I was tweeting about all day? Glass of wine, Lost, & YuBlog’s discussion = a better night :)

  • noelle said:

    so do you guys think that maybe widmore is with locke??

  • Debbie In Indianapolis said:

    I changed my mind - i don’t want to know anything - I want more years of LOST!!!

  • Will said:

    Poor Jin

  • Jessica aka jlyn1980 said:

    I like that picture you picked out Colleen.

  • Brad in Indiana said:

    MIB… always with a plan!

  • Matt in Syracuse said:

    i can’t tell if Sun is wearing a wedding ring

  • Debbie In Indianapolis said:

    I don’t see a ring

  • Matt in Syracuse said:

    And they’re not married

  • Jessica aka jlyn1980 said:

    No no no no no

  • noelle said:

    wow that was a stupid way to reveal what we already knew

  • Nick said:

    Yup, that answers that question. “No marry!”

  • Will said:

    Get rid of the V countdown.

  • Brian said:

    That is a nice twist….

  • bondy1k said:

    The Devil has Sayid’s soul

  • Brad in Indiana said:

    And now, the spokesman for Lithium… Sayid

  • Colleen (author) said:

    Ha, I guess that’s how their lives are better in the Sideways: they’re not married… ;)

  • Matt in Syracuse said:

    The V countdown bug sucks

  • Brad in Indiana said:

    Shot! And they weren’t even carrying logs!

  • Will said:

    They’re dropping like flies

  • Matt in Syracuse said:

    Zoe taking Jin? for what

  • Jana said:

    That V countdown clock is rather annoying.

  • bondy1k said:

    Widmore!

  • Brian said:

    Mr. Paik in the submarine? Is that why they want Jin?

  • Debbie In Indianapolis said:

    Maybe Sun is with Jae Lee now

  • Ron said:

    I can’t believe Jin and Sun aren’t married in the FlashSideways

  • Brad in Indiana said:

    Irony… did anyone see on Yahoo that Yunjin Kim (Sun) got married this week?

  • Colleen (author) said:

    Sun & Widmore had a deal before Sun came back to the Island…maybe he’s living up to his side of it by taking Jin “off the Island” ?

  • Beth said:

    Think Locke knew the dart gun people were coming?

  • Jeremy in Mississippi said:

    Can they be more obvious about pandering to LOST viewers? #V

  • Stefanie said:

    Has anyone noticed some of the LOST sounds are appearing in V and in flash forward? Was watching the flashforward recap episode the other day and one of the smoke monster sounds was used.

  • Jessica aka jlyn1980 said:

    Good thought Colleen, I was thinking about that also. What kind of deal did Widmore and Sun had.

  • Debbie In Indianapolis said:

    Maybe Anthony Cooper, Christian, and Paik are in the sub with Widmore

  • Nick said:

    And Miles has definitely become the wise-cracker on the island.

  • Matt in Syracuse said:

    @Colleen Forgot all about their little meeting

  • Brad in Indiana said:

    Sun knows more than she’s saying….

  • Debbie In Indianapolis said:

    Remember Sun - Live Together or Die Alone!!

  • Brad in Indiana said:

    Come on in, Jin… Bow chicka bow bow…

  • Matt in Syracuse said:

    A little hanky panky in the hotel room?

  • bondy1k said:

    DO UP YOUR BUTTON!

  • Debbie In Indianapolis said:

    Sun is sassy!!

  • Jeremy in Mississippi said:

    GONNA NEED SOME WATER OVER HERE!!

  • Ron said:

    i don’t know if i can handle sun being sexual…

  • Jessica aka jlyn1980 said:

    Ha ha filmed by a man, nice boob shot.

  • Matt in Syracuse said:

    wow, lost is goin bow chika wow wow

  • Nick said:

    I think we need a commercial break after than scene. Yowza.

  • Debbie In Indianapolis said:

    No - Locke had promised he wouldn’t bring Sun Back

  • bondy1k said:

    Don’t touch him Sun

  • Madison_0218 said:

    So there’s that whole free will thing again.

  • NaysWay said:

    Sun ain’t no fool.

  • noelle said:

    smartest thing anyones done on this show in a long time…

  • Colleen (author) said:

    I never really LOVED the Sun/Jin flashbacks. To me they were always kinda “okay, cool, whatever” but it turns out all they were missing was a little bit of, um, excitement.

  • Kelly Jo said:

    Sun is frackin awesome! Yay Charming Jin!

  • Jeremy in Mississippi said:

    For a second I thought Sun could hear me through the television telling her to run!

  • noelle said:

    hey- in recon, didn’t jin say “no english” when sawyer found him??

  • Brad in Indiana said:

    Were we just too amped up by the Alpert episode last week than anything after it would seem slow? Or is this really slow?

  • Stefanie said:

    So Kimie (sp?) worked for Pike? i always thought that Pike was more involved in this whole story… maybe we’re finally going to learn more.

  • Stefanie said:

    So this flash sideways is a little bit of a “flash back” since we’ve already seen the scene at the restaurant… anyone think there is significance to this?

  • bondy1k said:

    Jin would have never learned English if 815 never crashed. But Sun learned it for the buddy she was running away with.

  • Brad in Indiana said:

    TREE!

  • Debbie In Indianapolis said:

    Brad - i was thinking the same thing before this one came on - i guess I was getting myself ready for a slower episode

  • fawkes said:

    omg shes preggo

  • Matt in Syracuse said:

    Is she preggers?

  • Madison_0218 said:

    Never mind… so much for free will. He is making them believe they have a choice and manipulating them in the process.

  • Stefanie said:

    Ahhh is Sun pregnant?

  • Colleen (author) said:

    That is a really big hotel room…

  • Brian said:

    Mirror again…

  • Debbie In Indianapolis said:

    oh noo!!!!

  • Matt in Syracuse said:

    Keamy! Creepy as always

  • NaysWay said:

    Uh-oh. There’s the mirror face…

  • Madison_0218 said:

    She’s pregnant.

  • Stefanie said:

    Oh I hate Martin Kiemie… he is soooooooooooo creepy… I can’t stand him.

  • Matt in Syracuse said:

    What, she hits her head and can’t speak English?

  • Jana said:

    Keamey is quite scary

  • Stefanie said:

    Oh man she knocked the english right out of her.

  • NaysWay said:

    Aaaaaaand why can’t Sun speak English now?

  • Madison_0218 said:

    I love Ben. Is that wrong?

  • Nick said:

    Aw snap, was that some crossover between the flash sideways and the island?

  • fawkes said:

    so locke didnt know the dart ppl were coming

  • Debbie In Indianapolis said:

    did they only take JIN? Smokey is going to show his face

  • Colleen (author) said:

    Wow, why does everyone think that Sun is pregnant? It makes sense but I think I totally missed that one.

    Anyone think Man in Locke may have “infected” Sun while she was unconscious? I hope not.

  • Brad in Indiana said:

    ROOM 23?!?!?!?!

  • Will said:

    locke is mad

  • bondy1k said:

    She’s pregnant or she speaks english

  • Stefanie said:

    Oh man is jin the room that Carl was in?

  • Matt in Syracuse said:

    All those speakers….room 23?

  • Madison_0218 said:

    Ahhhh…. the locked room.

  • Jeremy in Mississippi said:

    Room 23!!

  • Brad in Indiana said:

    HERE WE GO!!!! Room 23

  • NaysWay said:

    So the locked room is the brainwashing room revisited?

  • April in KC said:

    Sorry I’m way behind on this one… what does the mirror/reflection thing mean?

  • Debbie In Indianapolis said:

    tina Fay will have the answers

  • bondy1k said:

    Widmore wants to control the island to control the world. What does somebody with power want - More Power!

  • Colleen (author) said:

    April in KC - All of the characters in the Sideways have looked at themselves in a mirror at one point or another.

  • fawkes said:

    lol locke is so mean to claire when he speaks to her

  • Stefanie said:

    Oh man… it’s locke and friends on the outrigger… is that who Juliette and Sawyer shot at from last season?

  • Stefanie said:

    Do you think we’ll see Claire get off the island in a helicopter like Charlie said????

  • Madison_0218 said:

    Hmmm.. Kate’s been crossed off but she’s not dead.

  • Matt in Syracuse said:

    whatever happens happens….hmmmm

  • fawkes said:

    oh..claire and kate fight!!

  • noelle said:

    what did he mean kate’s name isn’t on the wall ANYMORE??

  • Stefanie said:

    so the 3 people
    - hurley
    - jack
    - sun
    ????

  • Colleen (author) said:

    Here comes the outrigger fight scene from last season…

    “Whatever happens happens” instead of “Whatever happened, happened.”

  • NaysWay said:

    Wow, way to set Kate up, FLocke.

  • Stefanie said:

    wow this is the same story over and over like Jacob said

    Locke “They took one of our people James so I’m going to get ‘em back” how many times have we heard that before?

  • Colleen (author) said:

    @Stefanie - GOOD EFFING CALL!! That is how Claire will get off in a helicopter!

  • Stefanie said:

    @Colleen: has jin looked in a mirror yet? I don’t remember?

  • Brad in Indiana said:

    Anyone else think that smokey “judged” Sun when she knocked herself out, and now she’s infected?

  • NaysWay said:

    What disqualifies you as a candidate? If Kate’s name is crossed off but she’s still alive, does that mean that not all the crossed-off candidates are dead? Or are they about to die in the future? Or is Smokey blowing smoke up our butt?

  • Madison_0218 said:

    Totally possible about Sun being infected. Good call. I mean, what was with that Korean talk?

  • April in KC said:

    Thanks, Colleen.

    Makes me think of Alice.. she travels ‘through the looking glass’ to get to the other side… :)

  • Jen from Windsor said:

    @ Stephanie

    hurley
    Jack
    Sun
    and………..Desmond????

  • ATP said:

    Love this show!

  • Tammy said:

    I think Sun was about to tell Jin she was pregnant, before the knock on the door in the ALT.

  • Brad in Indiana said:

    @Colleen you figuring out how Claire will get off… in a helicopter? Bow chicka bow bow….

  • Stefanie said:

    @april in kc… yeah that mirror idea is pretty cool…. it’s like they are having some sort of deja vu when they look in the mirror… maybe they are having a semi-leap in consciousness when they do that.

  • Jen from Windsor said:

    The island isnt done with Desmond yet!!
    he has to come back!

  • Matt in Syracuse said:

    Tough guy Jin

  • Matt in Syracuse said:

    MIKHAIL!!!

  • Debbie In Indianapolis said:

    Its Mikal!!!

  • Will said:

    mikhail

  • Nick said:

    MIKHAIL! With both eyes!

  • Stefanie said:

    Oh man… patchy

  • noelle said:

    omg they really found a way to bring back everyone!! good on ya

  • Jessica aka jlyn1980 said:

    Woo hoo…DDK no shirt on. And Mikal

  • Colleen (author) said:

    @Brad in Indiana - HAHA Well played!

  • Debbie In Indianapolis said:

    And he has his eye

  • Matt in Syracuse said:

    Mikhail looks really weird without his patch

  • Colleen (author) said:

    “Why won’t you believe me?” “Because you’re speaking!” hahaha omg, that is so amazing.

  • bondy1k said:

    No eye patch on Mikhail.

  • Jeremy in Mississippi said:

    Nice to see you out of that eyepatch Mikhail

  • Will said:

    “Because you’re speaking.” Awesome.

  • Stefanie said:

    Ben: Why won’t you believe me
    Illana: “Because you’re speaking”

    Great lines.

  • noelle said:

    “because you’re speaking” hahahahahaha too damn funny!

  • Meredith said:

    Whoever in Promotions who allowed that V countdown clock should be fired!

  • Jessica aka jlyn1980 said:

    ha ha “Because you’re speaking.” My favorite line so far.

  • Stefanie said:

    Is sun conning all of them with this I can’t speak english thing anymore? Maybe she’s distancing herself from everyone???

  • Jen in Windsor said:

    notice how Miles became funny?

  • Matt in Syracuse said:

    Something definitely happened to Sun while she was knocked out

  • Debbie In Indianapolis said:

    Will he go past the barrior?

  • Stefanie said:

    MIL: “Easy friend I come in peace”… wow that sounds a lot like “V” Are we sure they aren’t tying LOST into V and Flashforward?

  • bondy1k said:

    This is awesome! Is that his name? “Obviously not John Locke” I like MIB better

  • Madison_0218 said:

    He doesn’t care about Jin. ALl he cares about is getting all his people off the island.

  • Colleen (author) said:

    DUH the sonic fence was always used to keep Smokey out. Woah, I love when the obvious becomes obvious. Also, I cannot wait for that war.

  • Jessica aka jlyn1980 said:

    I love these Terry O’Quinn and Alan Dale scenes. Both are such great actors.

  • Brian said:

    OK…we got 20 minutes left…could we please advance the story line…at least a little bit?????

  • Anthony Todaro said:

    another INSANE name dodge!!!! lol

  • Meredith in Florida said:

    A baldy faceoff!

  • Will said:

    Fight!

  • noelle said:

    so scientists: what type of energy would keep a smoke creature out but would be able to be walked through with simple earplugs aannndd only knock a human out when walked through normally??? riddle me that.

  • Stefanie said:

    @bondy1k…. You’re right… MIB name finally revealed….

    “Obviously not locke”

    What a reveal :o)

  • Eric said:

    For one reason or the other Richard saying Pack your bags made me squeal like the thought of no more Kate episodes :P haha

  • Brad in Indiana said:

    @Brian—- thank you, I’m not alone. This is like the cliff’s notes version of Lost, we’ll keep recaping and teasing.

  • Will said:

    Is this the kind of episode that Damon was talking about during the 30-hour podcast? The kind that fans call “filler”.

  • Stefanie said:

    so locke gave Widmore the chance to tell the truth about Jin, but he didn’t — that’s the straw that broke the camel’s back — so now it’s WAR!!

  • fawkes said:

    @ noelle soundwaves (high or low pitch)

  • Brad in Indiana said:

    @Noelle- If Smokey is made of electromagnitism, maybe those are giants magnets?

  • Stefanie said:

    @will oh come on have a little faith… it’s not filler :o)

  • Debbie In Indianapolis said:

    I know all of this is important - but they are killing me with the slower episode

  • bondy1k said:

    Great War Scenes
    Brave heart
    Lord of the Rings
    and Lost!

  • Debbie In Indianapolis said:

    So she can understand English - but not speak in English

  • Stefanie said:

    OK so she can understand english but can’t speak it? What/???

  • Matt in Syracuse said:

    I understand, you idiot. haha

  • Will said:

    This Sun thing is very weird.

  • Madison_0218 said:

    A lot of laugh out loud lines in this episode.

  • Colleen (author) said:

    @Will - I don’t feel like this is filler. I think it’s a big set up for the last stretch of episodes.

  • Will said:

    @stefanie I’m not saying it’s filler. I’m just saying that’s what other people are gonna call it ;)

  • Jessica aka jlyn1980 said:

    Ouch Mr Paik still is a giant douche.

  • Stefanie said:

    did kiemie say “just in case you figure out whats about to happen to tthe island”… did I hear that right…

  • bondy1k said:

    Maybe Jin is the guy Sun is cheating with. Maybe she married the other dude that taught her how to speak english and ran away with Jin to the west!

  • Debbie In Indianapolis said:

    Keamy just gives me the Hebegebees!!!

  • Brad in Indiana said:

    @Stefanie I thought so too!

  • Will said:

    I can’t wait to re-watch LOST after this season is over.

  • Matt in Syracuse said:

    Is it getting dusty in here? I think its a little dusty in here

  • Jen in Windsor said:

    Ji Yeon!!

  • fawkes said:

    AWWWWW little Kwon!

  • noelle said:

    @stefanie that’s what i heard too.

    also, where did widmore say to take the package?

  • Jessica aka jlyn1980 said:

    Oh he finally gets to see Ji Yeon…

  • Colleen (author) said:

    @bondy1k - Good thought. I like that a lot.

    We’re going to need to replay that line with Keamy just to be sure.

    Jin looking at the camera is making me tear up!

  • Madison_0218 said:

    “Some people just aren’t meant to be together”. That statement is powerful… since we’re seeing in the flash sideways story lines that people ARE in fact meant to be together, regardless of their pasts. This whole season has been about their lives intersecting in all “realities”.

  • Jana said:

    Simply cease to be?

  • fawkes said:

    come on Dez being the package!

  • Jeremy in Mississippi said:

    I knew it was a person!

  • Colleen (author) said:

    haha “I think it’s time you got to see the package.” That’s what she said!

  • Will said:

    It’s a living weapon

  • noelle said:

    omg a big reveal is coming!!!!!

  • Brad in Indiana said:

    There we go… moving forward!

  • Eric said:

    Once again Lost never fails to make me cry with Jin seeing Ji Yeon.

    AND HOLY CRAP ARE WE GOING TO FIND OUT WHATS BEHIND THE DOOR?!?!

  • Madison_0218 said:

    Suspense… Who??????

  • Stefanie said:

    A who…. all of you guesses for Desmond out there may be right??? or do you think it’s someone we’ve never seen before??? Or someone we thought we’d never see again (Charlie?)

  • Nick said:

    Get the package to the infirmary? Could that be because Desmond is still recovering from the gunshot wound?

  • Brad in Indiana said:

    @Colleen Bow chicka… yeah, you know.

  • Meredith in Florida said:

    So Widmore is now the good guy? Package to the infirmary? Person or baby?

  • Debbie In Indianapolis said:

    It is Walt!!!

  • Matt in Syracuse said:

    Suspense…

  • Jessica aka jlyn1980 said:

    That Giacchino music gets me every time. Tearing up over here.

  • Colleen (author) said:

    The part about how they’ll all “simply cease” to be could be a big clue about the Sideways. If MIL got off the Island and they all “simply ceased to be” in the regular timeline, would their Sideways lives take over?

  • April in KC said:

    I’ve been dying to see Dez come back all season.

  • Brad in Indiana said:

    Cast your vote… who is it? I’ve got Locke in a Wheelchair.

  • Debbie In Indianapolis said:

    oh Stephanie - That would be great if it is charlie - Desmond did say he saw Claire leaving on a Helicopter - and that hasn’t happened yet!

  • Madison_0218 said:

    Maybe it’s Sun’s dad?

  • Leigha in Lexington said:

    The package is Ji Yeon?

  • fawkes said:

    i wanna know what kinda of connection would MIB and Dez even share?

  • Colleen (author) said:

    If it’s Desmond, he was probably grabbed from the hospital after Widmore met with Eleanor last season.

  • Jen in Windsor said:

    come on Desmond! be in the package!, he’s not gone til he’s gone!

  • ChrsInBoston said:

    This shit’s gettin’ good.

  • Stefanie said:

    OK just rewound the DVR and it really sounds like Kiemie says “just in case you figure out what’s about to happen to the ISLAND” but I’m still not 100% sure… what else could he be saying?

  • ChrsInBoston said:

    I totally called Desmond the second i saw the Locks……jus sayin :)

  • bondy1k said:

    Des! It’s gotta be Des. C’mon brotha

  • Matt in Syracuse said:

    Still holding my theory taht its Desmond

  • Stefanie said:

    @brad in indiana: Locke in wheelchair would be kind a cool but cheezy to have Terry O’Quin playing 2 roles (like a bad soap)

  • Will said:

    I thought he said “what’s going to happen to you”. What does the closed captioning say?

  • Stefanie said:

    Maybe it’s “sideways Jin” that’s going to be the “who”

  • Jen in Windsor said:

    Widmore and Desmond are connected, maybe he brought Desmond back so he would be separated with Penny again. and maybe he gave him another useless task like pushing buttons.

  • bondy1k said:

    Sayid seems ruthless even in the sideways

  • Diane in NJ said:

    I think the package is little Kwon…could SHE be the final candidate? (not Jin or Sun after all!)

  • fawkes said:

    omg i really thought twice Sayid was gunna kill jin

  • Jessica aka jlyn1980 said:

    Sayid=Jerk

  • NaysWay said:

    It’s official. Sayid is a jerk in any time or space.

  • Jen in Windsor said:

    little Kwon,, thats a good one!

  • Jessica aka jlyn1980 said:

    SHOOT HIM FOR KILLING CHARLIE!!!!!!!!!!!

  • fawkes said:

    HAHAHAHAH theres his eye

  • bondy1k said:

    Bye Bye Eye
    Bye Bye Baby

  • Debbie In Indianapolis said:

    There goes his eye - and i bet she was pregnant

  • NaysWay said:

    There’s the eye!

  • Colleen (author) said:

    HOLY FREAKING CRAP! Jin is a bad-ass!

  • Brian said:

    Mikhail has now died for the 427th time on Lost….

  • Stefanie said:

    Oh man shot patchy right in the eye…. oH my god sun is shot… oh my god

  • Matt in Syracuse said:

    Shot through the eye

    Oh crap he shot Sun….and she’s preggers

  • fawkes said:

    called it! preggo!

  • Nick said:

    Pow! Right in the eye!

  • Madison_0218 said:

    @Stephanie, I thought the exact same thing. I rewound it a few times and thought the same thing that he said what’s about to happen to the Island.

  • NaysWay said:

    And there’s the baby. DAMNIT!

  • ChrsInBoston said:

    oh FAHK ME DUDE

  • Brad in Indiana said:

    And there goes the eye… and yes, I bet she was pregnant, and got shot in the stomach

  • Madison_0218 said:

    Sun will be okay because that baby’s destiny is to be born.

  • Diane in NJ said:

    I’m calling it…Jack will save Sun’s life in sideways reality.

  • Tammy said:

    right in the eye

  • Jessica aka jlyn1980 said:

    Dude Sun is writing just like when Locke lost his voice and he wrote to Charlie.

  • Jen in Windsor said:

    I want Jack to replace Jacob!

  • Will said:

    4 minutes

  • bondy1k said:

    His bedside manor got a lot better over the years

  • Debbie In Indianapolis said:

    I like it Diane - the bullet will hit her spinal cord and he will have to save her

  • Jeremy in Mississippi said:

    A lot of hand holding this season

  • Jen in Windsor said:

    Jack is a wreck off the island, he should stay right where he is, he’s better off

  • fawkes said:

    BROTHA!!

  • Jen in Windsor said:

    he doesnt like secrets but his name is a giant secret to all of us!!

  • Matt in Syracuse said:

    DESMOND!!!

  • Debbie In Indianapolis said:

    Its Desmond!!!!

  • NaysWay said:

    BROTHA!

  • Will said:

    Desmond is the key

  • bondy1k said:

    Hi Brotha’

  • Jen in Windsor said:

    see you in anotha life brotha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    hesssssssssss back!!!!!!!!!!!! yessssssssssssssssssssssssssss

  • Madison_0218 said:

    YAY! Desmond!

  • Carol Lyn said:

    no big surprise there!!!!

  • Jessica aka jlyn1980 said:

    IT’S DESMOND!!!!!!!!! That was too good.

  • Debbie In Indianapolis said:

    NOOOO - that can’t be it!!!

  • Matt in Syracuse said:

    amazing grace on bagpipes…desmond centric next week

  • fawkes said:

    when dez saw sayid something changed in sayid…like he got his feelings back???

  • NaysWay said:

    Aw man. Is somebody gonna bite it next week? I don’t like secrets. (hee hee)

  • Jen in Windsor said:

    i love desmond, he’s the best!

  • Stefanie said:

    Wow… crazy ending and really different promo… Des centric episode next week… who has to make a sacrifice???

  • Meredith in Florida said:

    Oh NO! The end of Dez?

  • Brad in Indiana said:

    Episode redeemed in the closing seconds… ladies and gentlemen, never, ever doubt Darlton!

  • Colleen (author) said:

    Man, I missed Desmond. I know that I’m going to be more into this post than “V” (in all honesty) but I set up a post for anyone who wants to go over there and chat about it now or whenever they do watch it: http://bit.ly/duePPX

  • Eric said:

    DESMOND!!! Had a feelling it was him, but still great reveal.

    Next weeks promo was fantastic as always.

  • Will said:

    Does Desmond still see the future?

  • Michelle said:

    I knew it. The constant returns. Desmond is the link between the island and the flash sideways.

  • Madison_0218 said:

    Damn! That one got better as it went along. Kind of slow at the start, but boy, what an ending. Sayid doesn’t feel anything, but I wonder what he feels about seeing Desmond.

  • Jessica aka jlyn1980 said:

    That was definitely not a let down after last weeks epic episode. Just as good. I love Lost, can’t believe 6 more weeks and it will be done.

  • Colleen (author) said:

    “when dez saw sayid something changed in sayid…like he got his feelings back???” @Fawkes - I like that. Anyone else agree?

  • Jana said:

    Damn - my brother’s dvr switched over to record other shows and i missed from where Kate & Sawyer started talking until Sayid was in the water looking at Desmond. What happened?

  • Marc Vibbert said:

    best ending yet, Desmond’s back!

  • Stefanie said:

    @colleen and @fawkes… totally agree something changed with Sayid when he saw Dez… like something sparked…. remember the island was not done with Dez… maybe we need his traveling through consciousness to help us get the two universes together or help everyone make sense of things by bringing the two stories together.

    Wow as I write this it sounds like flash forward…. the only way to make sense of the blackout is to get everyone’s story from the flash forward.

    I really think there’s something to this tie in with LOST and FF…but now I’m totally off track.

    Anyone with me on this theory?

  • fawkes said:

    @Colleen female instinct :)

  • Madison_0218 said:

    There was def a connection between sayid and desmond there.

  • Stefanie said:

    @jana… Kate asked sawyer if he was worried and sawyer said yes… Sawyer figured Widmore would blow locke away, but then locke came back and they realized that Locke wasn’t going anywhere… Locke told sawyer that he “doesn’t like secrets” and basically send Sayid to the sub to find out what was locked in it… then you probably caught the part where sayid sees Dez

  • Jon from Canada said:

    Jinn shirtless… talk about “the PACKAGE”. :p

  • Diane in NJ said:

    Maybe Desmond is the key and Widmore will use him to lure Locke’s followers away from him (hence the connection with Sayid–maybe he will now see the light).

  • Colleen (author) said:

    Re: Sayid. OH. Sayid was dead. Then he was revived. Then he was “infected”. Then he couldn’t feel anything. Right?

    He saw Desmond and it looks like something clicked with him. Perhaps seeing Desmond and his conscious-time-traveling abilities is going to make Sayid (and eventually everyone else) have their own “Flashes Before Your Eyes” moments where they’ll wake up in the Sideways sub-consciousnesses.

    AND SCENE!

  • Madison_0218 said:

    Good point. Why is Desmond such a secret weapon? What is the power behind him? Perhaps he has some sort of ability to break through to the “infected” ones. And where the hell is Penny?

  • Chris from RI said:

    It seems like Desmond may be the key to keeping MIL on Island. Ever since he peaced out on Penny’s boat, it seems like Smokey wants off. Although I feel like if that is the case, his name should be somewhere on that Lighthouse candidate list.

  • Stan said:

    Keemy said “just in case you figure out what’s about to happen TO YA, can’t have you freakin out”
    That also fits w/ Keemy’s following statements.

  • Molly said:

    Interesting how the sideways is mirroring (another mirror shot too–Sun in the hotel) the Island. Jin locked up in a cooler. Jin locked up in Room 23. Sun can’t speak English in the sideways and now she can’t on the Island either.

  • Eric said:

    “In one week the conversation is going to change.”

    Thats what Damon just tweeted. I love knowing bits of info that make no sense to me lol Awesome

  • Erik said:

    Sayid had feelings for Desmond.

  • Diane in NJ said:

    It’s sort of ironic that Desmond might now be the key to keeping MIL on the island and preventing him from killing everyone. Earlier he was responsible for keeping the electromagnetic energy from getting out and killing everyone as well. What a life lol

  • Brian said:

    Maybe Sun will have to go to a fertility doctor of some sort to heal her…Juliet perhaps?

  • Madison_0218 said:

    @Diane, that’s a lot of pressure for one man!

  • blake said:

    I guess jin delivered his package

  • Liam said:

    Im glad Richard is back to his seemingly know it all ways! and Jack to share one of his half cry emotional scenes with that tomato in the finale????

  • Stefanie said:

    @diane in NJ … maybe you’re right.
    That Desmond is a real “corker”

  • laurie said:

    Sassy Sun…how I missed you!

  • noelle said:

    @brian i like that idea!!

  • Digby said:

    never thought i’d be so happy to hear bagpipes

  • Stefanie said:

    So now that we’ve gotten a lot of the island mythology from last week’s episode does anyone think we’ll ever get a reason for why these specific losties are the ones that are so important to the story … or was it just coincidence that these people are the ones who are in the war… or is there something special about all of them and that’s why they were poential candidates / losties?

  • Erik said:

    Anybody notice how Widmore said that everybody would “cease to be” rather than “be killed” or something else along those lines? It almost sounds like some type of paradox consequence or something.. like MIL would somehow try and join the 2 timelines, and everybody would cancel out and nothing would exist.

  • Stefanie said:

    @eric thanks for the heads up on the Damon tweet “In one week the conversation is going to change” that makes me think we’re all sooooo off base.

  • Stefanie said:

    @eric I agree with the “cease to be” comment… maybe this paradox all started when the one rabbit saw the clone of itself (didn’t this happen in LOST? a while back or is it just too late and i’m losing it and the feeling in my legs from not moving from the tv and pc since that episode ended)

  • Stan said:

    Kate really does seem to be the wildcard. MIB did say her name is not on the wall ANYMORE. Something is up w/ her character.

  • Brian said:

    Damon’s tweet makes me really think we’re going to get a good understanding as to what the flash sideways are; perhaps he means that people will stop hating on the flash sideways

  • Jessica aka jlyn1980 said:

    Desmond and Sayid are each other’s constants. Desmond lost his mind in the helicopter at the end of season 4 with Sayid. I wonder if there is a connection between The Constant and now.

  • Stefanie said:

    @Brian. Agreed.

  • Colleen (author) said:

    @Erik - Yes!

    I said before but it got lost in all the confusion that the part about how they’ll all “simply cease to be” could be a big clue about the Sideways. If MIL got off the Island and they all “simply ceased to be” in the regular timeline, would their Sideways lives take over?

  • blake said:

    loved the promo for next. nothing revealed. and bagpipes. the big man is back!

  • Stefanie said:

    @Jessica aka jlyn1980 I thought that Faraday or penny was desmond’s constant?

  • Stefanie said:

    Hmmm… the “constant” thing is making me wonder if that rule is at play with the flash sideways. Will people/things cease to be in all of the losties lives if there is no constant between the island life and the sideways life? OK I know I’m rambling now.. just food for thought.. I’m loving hearing everyone elses’ theories.

  • Jana said:

    @Stefanie Thank you. :)

  • Jessica aka jlyn1980 said:

    Maybe Desmond is Sayid’s

  • Nana said:

    I have a feeling this week’s episode gave us a huge indication of how both realities are conected….and I didn’t think I would but I LOVED the episode. I’m more confused than ever about what the hell is going on with MIB/Widmore and where our Losties fit in there. I suppose Sawyer’s plan to take the sub might make more sense since Richardus wants to burn down the plane lol

    I love what they did with the Sun and Jin storyline in the sideways universe, except the shooting her in the stomach and endangering her baby…but I guess it’s a convenient way of getting more of our Losties bumping into each other in that reality.

    I also liked the package reveal although most of us called that one (sorry Jay, it was a someone AND it was Des!). So now we know, from what Widmore knows, DES IS THE KEY TO DEFEATING MIB. That is inredicbly interesting although kinda foreshadowed too. I’m pretty sure Eloise was in on this but I doubt Des and Penny actually agreed to him going back to the Island.

    We also learnt that MIB can only turn into Smoke ON THE MAIN island….so I guess his ability is grounded in something unique about it…electromagnetic energy, weird donkey wheels anyone?

    Sun finally gets another line, and in Korean no less, and I loved the Ben bonding moment and how Ilana was not inclined to believe him (weird, since she just forgave him for basically murdering her “dad”)

    My crackpot theory is as follows:

    Widmore and his goons are gonna get wiped out somehow, and Locke will offer the Losties/Candidates a way off the island in the form of the sub which he will then….destroy? I still think he needs the candidates to die, all of them, to be free,but I’m still wondering why he keeps non essentials alive (Claire, Teple others etc). Oh, and anyone got any clues why Widmore seems to be the only one who knows shit around this Island…..I mean how come NO ONE else knows about MIB the way he (ok, he and Ricardus) does?

    Keep up the good work guys, cant wait to hear what u gotta say!

    PS: Keamy, Mihail, other dude whose name I cant remember…..and OMG Sayid has lost his soul in alt!univ as well!!!! ;P

  • Chris from RI said:

    @Jessica aka jlyn1980 @ Stephanie — I thought Jack was Desmond’s constant from back when they met running on the bleachers. Funny that Des was also sitting next to Jack on the plane in one of the flash sideways…

  • Stefanie said:

    Remember how desmond kept trying to stop Charlie from dying, but he couldn’t b/c every time he stopped it another thing came in to play to kill Charlie b/c it was Destiny / Fate?

    I think that all of the things parallel in the flash sideways are the parts of the losties lives that are “fate” and anything that’s different is “free will”

    This brings us back to the “balance” theme of lost… it’s not only about balance between light/dark good/evil it’s also about a balance between destiny/free will.

    I think with the reintroduction of Desmond we’ll see more related to this theory. Personally I LOVED the Constant and Flashes Before your eyes and really want to see these ideas come back again before the series is over.

  • Colleen (author) said:

    Yeah I agree with Desmond being Jack’s constant. He has appeared with him in all timelines except the forwards. I wonder just how many people will be able to say “Desmond Hume is my constant.” Also, we haven’t seen Faraday yet - any guesses how he’ll pop up?

  • Stefanie said:

    @chris in ri:

    I don’t remember, correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t Desmond need to call penny from the freighter (end of season 4) to keep from hemoraging — isn’t it your constant that keeps you from dying? I may be totally mis-remembering that. Would love to know the real answer.
    _____________________

    Regarding: @Jessica aka jlyn1980 @ Stephanie — I thought Jack was Desmond’s constant from back when they met running on the bleachers. Funny that Des was also sitting next to Jack on the plane in one of the flash sideways…

  • Brian said:

    Maybe Faraday will pop to connect the timelines or something in the flash sideways. I don’t see anyone needing a pet rat have their consciousness jump foward at any point lol

  • Chris from RI said:

    My question is why Ben doesn’t speak up about stuff? I feel like he knows alot more of whats going on, as he once had answered to Jacob when he was an ‘Other’. He knew about Jacob’s house, and the fact that Locke had some sort of unique connection with the island. He and Widmore also seem to have a similar relationship to Jacob and MIL. He needs to spill the beans…

  • Stefanie said:

    @colleen I’m thinking we may not see faraday… but since so many “oldies” have popped up it would be great for him to come back.

    Who haven’t we seen in the flash sideways yet?
    - Faraday
    - Juliette
    - Walt
    - Michael (wasn’t harold perineu at the premiere? in Hawaii?)
    - Mr Friendly
    - mr Pike
    - penny
    - Aaron (only saw him as newborn and he was suposed to be REALLY important according to the psychic in season 1)
    - Libby
    - Annie (although I think this story is over)
    - Bernard
    - horace goodspeed
    - other dharma folks
    - anna lucia
    - shannon
    -

    who else?? I know there are more

  • Jessica aka jlyn1980 said:

    ATTN: If you do not want to be spoiled for who will be in April 13ths episode do NOT read the section in this weeks TV Guide on Lost. It will say who will be on the episode. I’m really frakking mad I saw that. I’ve been trying to avoid guest stars.

  • Scott said:

    Sun was somehow hotter in the alternate reality.

  • Dort said:

    So great to see Desmond. I think he and Hurley have a lot to do with how it all plays out. Plus it gives me hope that Faraday will show up one more time! :) PLEASE !

  • Dort said:

    I’m beginning to think that Ben & Widmore are NOT evil—they just got caught up in the evil game being played by the two originals. I sure hope we get their back-story before too long [I really think it will be told soon] Probably close to the end….how many more episodes are left? They’re really driving me bonkers….gotta know / gotta know !!

  • Tess said:

    After watching the scene with Jack and Sun toward the end, am I the only one who thinks that was possibly a trick on Jacob (or someone’s) part? It seemed a little TOO coincidental that the tomato was alive AND that he held out his hand for Sun in the exact way that Locke did to Jin in the first part of the episode. Food for thought. Oh, and P.S. Desmond just makes me happy, just like Hurley. Brother.

  • Stefanie said:

    Not sure if anyone here is familliar with Eckart Tolle, but there are so many parallels with his teachings and LOST… here’s one blurb from Wikipedia about Tolle’s books/teachings:

    “…the transformation of consciousness, a spiritual awakening that he sees as the next step in human evolution. An essential aspect of this awakening consists in transcending our ego-based state of consciousness. This is a prerequisite not only for personal happiness but also for the ending of violent conflict endemic on our planet.”

    See wikipedia entry for Eckart Tolle
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eckhart_Tolle

  • carol said:

    It was revealed when Farraday left that he would be back in some capacity this year, just not sure when. I bet it his research that Widmore is using to beat MIB.

  • carol said:

    Keamy said to Mikhael “look behind you, you idiot”

    The note from Sun said when questioned about Locke “he said he would take me to Jin” when asked why she didn’t go she wrote “I didn’t trust him”.

  • Anne said:

    Desmond’s has got quite a package, I mean Desmond is quite the package!!!

  • Brian Johnson said:

    Its in the genes… All the canidates are decendents from jacob and man in locke(brothers or same person?)… That is why Tina Fey said “Yep its jacob” about jin. I think that Jin will need to sacrifice himself to allow the spirit of jacob to take over his body and win the war. Who knew Jin would turn out to be a pretty cool character.

  • Anne said:

    To reply to Madison_0218 said:

    Penny is in a darker, sadder place. It’s called FlashForward.

  • JordanFromJersey said:

    I thought it was an okay episode, but not great. You can check out my full video review at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qMeK-ddb0s

  • Michael Del Muro said:

    I don’t know many people who didn’t believe it was Desmond behind the double-locked door on the submarine. So when Widmore’s people pull a drugged “Mr. Hume” out of the submarine, it was hardly a shock. Even though I was 90 percent sure it’d be Desmond, I didn’t see where he fit in until tonight.

    We’ve been told he’s “special” and “unique.” While he’s really wanted to get back to Penny, he’s always put the group first, more than willing to sacrifice everything for his friends on the island.

    We’ve seen Desmond, like Jacob, time travel.

    Is it possible that Desmond is the true candidate?

    Is it possible Widmore’s always known Desmond’s fate? The Widmore on the island hardly acts like the Widmore who sat across from Desmond telling him he’s not worth one drink of McCutcheon’s Whiskey. Perhaps the accusation, “Coward” has ensured that when the time comes, Desmond won’t be the coward.

    Maybe Desmond is the island’s wildcard and, as a result, is the key to both the future, and to the past.

  • James said:

    Going into this I had accepted it would never ever be as good as Ab Aeterno. That being said what we did get was an otherwise brilliant episode - i’m surprised so many of you seem to have found it slow/fillery.

    We learned some important stuff: Widmore can’t kill FLocke as quickly or easily as we thought - he had to stand there and talk to him; Widmores brought a bunch of scientists again but not real mercanaries; Desmond is probably more important than I think we’d even guessed; and most importantly: when they were knocked out they all “went somewhere”

    I think that THAT is the line they threw out to really get you. They MUST have been in the sideways-world right? The Flash-sideways are clashing with the Island-time already. their subconscious is leading them towards the flash sideways.

  • Colleen (author) said:

    @Anne - hahahahahahaha

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