Discuss “Lost” Ep. 6.16 “What They Died For”
18 May 2010
398 Comments
We’re back to the present day Island storyline this week in the penultimate Lost episode (at this time next week, it’ll all be over!) titled “What They Died For”. Wow, this is really happening…
Warning: This post WILL contain spoilers, so if you haven’t watched Lost yet, you will be spoiled!
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Just a heads up - I will be coming straight from my aunt’s wake, which ends at 9pm. It’s 10 minutes from my parents house. I am going to try to slip out of there at 8:45pm so I can come stick to some routine tonight and watch it with you guys! Otherwise, I will be a few minutes behind on the DVR until I catch up. So if your comment isn’t approved immediately, please bear with me - I promise I will get to it within a very timely and reasonable fashion.
I won’t be able to Tweet it on all the Twitter accounts tonight though so if you’re reading this and can RT, I would be so, so grateful.
@Colleen:
Our thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.
Can’t believe how much I hated last week on first watch, but now like, respect and appriciate it. I guess we need to remember, this is THEIR story, and we have to enjoy it, rather than rip it apart. No matter what, we’ll all enjoy this amazing week, as we say goodbye to the best show ever.
@Colleen Thoughts and prayers are with you & the family
Penultimate action. This is really the last episode. =(
It’s been a fun ride. What a life changing show for so many people, self included. I read more books in the last 6 years then I ever have in my entire 30 something years and it’s TOTALLY because of LOST.
It made me smarter-er. =) I will miss you LOST…
@Colleen my condolences to you and your family.
Can’t believe this is the 2nd last episode of LOST. Going to miss it when its gone.
Sending hugs to you and your family, Colleen.
My opinion of Across the Sea has improved over the past week, but I’m ready for Lost to get back to normal tonight.
@ Colleen - many thoughts and prayers for you and your family too.
Damnit, they’re showing Sun and Jin dying again……and Jack crying.
If I knew how to RT stuff I would. I’m kind of lame with Twitter still.
da blood da blood
Are we finally going to find out who David’s mom is??
I really hope they show David’s mother by 11:30 on Sunday night
Crud - got my wine and my spot on the couch - but helping son study for a big test tomorrow! Trying to realize that test is more important!
The island is literally bleeding into the sideways universe.
i still laugh whenever i see claire’s stomach
Who puts milk in a big tea pitcher? lol.
Desmond, you sneaky SOB
Des is so sneaky!
I told you it was gonna hurt.
Kate has looked better
We have to go back, Kate.
We have to kill him, Jack
I’m going to miss chatting with everyone after this
oh man only 5 min in and I’m already teary eyed
You can’t go wrong putting Desmond in the opening scene of a episode.
Very sorry for your loss Colleen.
@Debbie In Indianapolis — better help with that test… you don’t want your son to have “mommy issues”
MADE IT. Gonna re-watch the first 5 minutes I missed and I’ll be all caught up with you guys.
I only wish it could be so simple…just kill Locke.
If dead B-O-D-Y-S wash up on shore, I’m gonna lose it
Awe…
@Renee maybe instead of a dagger they use a rock.
I swear Jack said Flocke!
WTF he’s gunna hurt Locke again!
I don’t know why, but I’m not trusting Sawyer right now
ben is kinda a wuss now
I’m making a citizens arrest….oh Jeez, Des is a man possessed
and then there was four…
LOL. Desmond trying to hit Locke again. Ben getting punched in the face. Jarring memories is a dirty job.
Oh look, the mysterious trio appears.
Quick, find Vincent because Des in the well and needs to be rescued
When did Des beat up Ben?
Good Colleen found some Keys or did she pick the lock.. LOL
Poor Ben, always getting the sh.t beaten out of him.
Not again Desmond.
Oh man, I actually feel sorry for Ben.
Um, you mean the room EVERYONE knows about? That secret room?
Blow it to hell!
Well if Ben isn’t going to flash, I guess Desmond had no choice but to beat it out of him. Ouch
Alan Dale plays Widmore perfectly.
I am getting a little tired of all this C-4.
The island is not hell or Ben would have asked “Do you what to cripple the plane or blow it to here.
how did Desmond manage to hide that thick Scottish accent pretending to be from Oceanic? haha
Well now we know Richard and company didn’t rig the plane
Hi Chuck. Come on in. How’s it’s been? want some coffee? I think I got some here.
@Laura - I am going to miss everyone after this, too.
Michael Emerson should win a award for getting beat up I feel sorry for the guy now.
YES YES YES!!! I’ve been waiting for a Ben and Widmore scene…..
How can the island survive if no females remain alive? I’m talking about how Kate wasn’t apparently on the cave walls and neither was Claire. Just a thought. I mean, where do babies come from anyhow? Don’t you need a male AND a woman?!?
the sad thing is that sideways Ben isn’t accustomed to getting beaten.
What Ben thinks: “I’m going to summon the Smoke Monster!” What Smokey hears: “I’m the sap who’s going to let you in New Otherton.”
Henry Ian Cusik is not really Scottish
I am going to miss Ben getting beaten every week…let’s hope he gets a new show.
Oh this is all so sad– I’m just trying to enjoy the last moments we have left of this…
Zoe=Red Shirt
Any bets on when she’s likely to die?
Zoe, go fetch some wood
Ben’s reaction to Richard telling Widmore what they’re up to…priceless
Who is running the island’s water treatment facility?
@Stan I want her dead this episode.
Zoe’s about to die…
So Widmore was bad and now is good…
Why was Zoe standing next to Widmore, like she was going to stop Ben from shooting him?
that concert has to be the climax of the sideways
Ha ha Kate, Sayid, and Desmond all at the police station.
Des is so good!
Oh Desmond
Geez, how does Desmond know everything?
Now instead of all the losties at the hospital, they are all going to end up in jail
Did Sawyer just call him Flocke? or was I just hearing things?
Everyone goes to the hospital or jail and then we go to a concert?
Don’t be sad, Sawyer
I LOVE LOVE LOVE Desmond! Jack is choosing the upper road, letting Sawyer off the hook. Hmm…just like brothers do
@Jlyn - I think he called him Flocke too
Kate’s shot in the shoulder and asks Hurley if he’s alright. Priceless.
“We’re very close to the end, Hugo.” CHILLS.
Very close indeed!!! WOW
“We’re very close to the end.” You ain’t just whistlin’ Dixie, Jacob.
I guess once Jacob picks the guy/girl to replace him, he can go.
OH BOY whats Desmond up to……this is gonna be good!!
Sounded like he said Flocke. Closed captioning said Lock.
@ Stan & @ Davidd - I want Zoe gone too!
“We’re very close to the end”…you got that right
I am sure that Sawyer said “Flocke”….
But who else thinks it’s a cop-out that when Jacob burns his ashes no one will see him again? Jay would call it “lazy writing”…
i just cannot look at Jacob the same way after last week…
@Brian … I thought the same thing :o)
@Brian said:
Who is running the island’s water treatment facility?
Wonder how Des is going to help Kate remember the Island. Um, she is in something of a cage. And Sawyer is nearby…
@Colleen ok I watched closed captioning, he said “If Locke” so it sounded like Flocke. lol but that’s funny.
Ahh…too close to the end. Only 3 hours of LOST (including commercials) left!
And I don’t want Jacob to go.
Ya the water looks cleaner than some places I’ve been to.
I thought I heard Sawyer say “Flocke”. Sawyer should have thought of something else to call him cuz he knows he is not the real Locke.
who was teh blonde kid?
Sawyer is such a sad puppy this episode.
You know, re: Jacob from last week - It was an origin story of Jacob and Smoke Monster. To me, every superhero or god was a whiny doubting brat before they became big. Think of Jacob as Luke Skywalker lol
Wow - that fan promo gave me chills. Nice job!
@Renee I thought I heard it too.
Will they explain the ashes?
Definetely. A major sacrifice by everyone no matter what happens.
@Renee Maybe Sawyer should have called him “Mr. Un-Clean”
@Laura/SDOrioles: Agreed!
@hopeformama I agree
Okay I DO NOT want Miles to die!
See ya, Richard
Anyone thinking Flocke might be done talking?
Smokie is PO’ed
Miles ha ha I’m with Miles. NOooooooo RICHARD!!!!!!!!
Or Richard either - oh no!
Poor Richard.
Run Miles, run!
Smokey sure knows how to make an entrance!
I love the Ben and Locke scenes. Nice Ben just give up Widmore.
I think Ben turned over a new leaf back in ep. Dr. Linus. He must be playing Man in Locke.
Richard can’t die! He’s only very badly bruised…right?
Rousseau!
Always wanted Ben and Rousseau to hook up
I thought Rousseau wasn’t coming back! Awesome.
Non-crazy Danielle…..hmmm
Not crazy Danielle!!! So odd!
OH MY GOSH I didn’t think she was going to come back!!!!!!!!!!! What a nice surprise…..
Even if we have to kidnap you!
ben and alex reunited as family…..
Rousseau and Ben are totally going to get it on in the Sideways
kidnap haha
@Colleeen: Agreed!
Danielle cleans up well.
Next time?
Ben & Danielle make a nice couple.
I was spoiled on the Rousseau appearance, but still nice anyway.
OMG Danielle is hitting on Ben… that is just weird.
this episode is amazing.
He has the walkie talkie, he has a plan. He’s going to lose and probably going to die. Lovely.
If we add more logs to Jacob’s fire to keep it from going out, can we have a few more episodes of Lost?
sorry Charlie!
Ben should have said “Sorry, Charlie”
And no more Zoe.
It’s like the trifecta. Locke, Ben, Widmore
Bye bye Zoe
WHY BEN? WHy would you do that?
Wow, Smokey doesn’t waste any time.
Bye Zoe. MIB made a lot of people happy with that slash.
WHHAAATTTTTT?!
And the hits just keep on coming - literally
Totally didn’t see that coming.
Wow. I guess they can hurt each other.
What happened to redeemed Ben???
I am really disappointed in Ben right now. After all the tears I shed for his redemption in “Dr. Linus.” I feel betrayed.
how can they see Jacob?!?! This is nuts.
ben really likes killing people
The POWER DUO! It’s ON!
It was Jacob’s cave.
Way to go Kate…demand some answers!
It comes down to Hurley, Kate, Jack and Sawyer…the ones that were kidnapped way back when!
So Ben is just ultimately, inherently bad. No matter what. Is that right?
Wait! I thought Kate wasn’t a candidate anymore. So confused.
Both versions of Ben have the same smashed up faces! More of the Island “bleeding” over into Sideways World and vice versa?
Jess from SC said: “It comes down to Hurley, Kate, Jack and Sawyer…the ones that were kidnapped way back when!”
WOAH! Good observation!
WOW Zoe, Widmore, Richard
Stop wasting time and start talking. Whatever happened to redeemed Ben?
Let the bloodbath commence…
@Renee gone with the sound of a gun shot.
Is anyone else upset that Richard didn’t get a proper death? I really think he deserves more
Wow!! Good job, Jess!
Ben is getting what he wanted…..power
@ Colleen - I so agree with you. I liked it better when he was redeemed. It seems like a lot of people on this show are dying for no reason. Especially Frank - what was the reason for keeping him around all season only to have him die like that? Darn it I want some answers!
Ben will be the new Smoky and one of our 4 will be the new Jacob.
Almost didn’t recognize Rousseau with make-up on!
“Ben flip flops more than pancakes at ihop” - someone on twitter
What are they all dying for?
Well, Widmore did cause Alex’s murder. This could be a ruse.
Really hope they tell us who becomes the new Jacob at the end of this episode because I can’t wait till Sunday XD.
OK - SICK devotion. I made my tantruming 4 year old daughter watch the first 15 minutes because she “didn’t want to go to bed.” Because her other mom let her take a nap today.
She is sleeping now, thankfully.
And um.
OK, after Carlton and Damon’s “official” podcast, I now have a WICKED crackpot theory - Locke IS the island. In the Alt.
The “heart” of the island? Locke’s heart….
And now the reason we saw “kiddo” Jacob? was because he needed the ashes to be full, “grown up.”
Can’t be Kate…her name was crossed off…or so we were led to believe….
A bit obvious who won’t be protecting the island - Sawer. My money is on Jack.
I really wanted Kate to ask why her name was scratched out. I guess it’s coming
I’m still for the “it only ends once” theory (although I don’t think anyone else has this theory that I know of). I really don’t think they will find a replacement for Jacob… thus “the end”
I don’t know if I’m prepared to see this cycle go on and on and on… what’s the point of watching this part of the cycle.
any takers on the theory?
I’m just getting nervous for the end
I am really disappointed in Ben right now. After all the tears I shed for his redemption in “Dr. Linus.” I feel betrayed.
me, too. I thought that was great closure for his character back in Dr. Linus.
whoops, meant to quote Colleen on that last post. Sorry!
RIP Richard!
@shelli good theory “Locke is the Island”
I’m wondering if Ben has a real plan here. What’s he going to do with the walkie-talkie? And if he has a plan, is killing Widmore part of it? Or was that just revenge? Revenge, I think. He may have turned a corner in “Dr. Linus” but given the chance to avenge Alex, he had to take it.
one word: WOW
and I’m so sad that Miles is about to bite the dust.
I also hope that Richard was just um, “sent flying.” Because Jacob gave him eternal life. And we need more from mr. eyeliner.
@shelly I think they needed the ashes to burn so that Jacob could allow himself to be seen by the candidates / losties
I think Myles is the new Richard and Hurley is the new Jacob, then I can imagine they are wandering the island making sarcastic joke and witty comments forever.
so is Jack going to miss the concert???
@colleen, i have a feeling that wasnt the last we see of richard, the way he was blown away makes me think he will show up badly hurt
@Matt T - I hope that it’s a rouse. MIL didn’t examine his body and he kinda just fell. Also, Ben hurried him out of there really damn quickly. I wonder if it is a ruse.
Locke is starting to believe again
Terry O’Quinn has such a cute smile!
Just like Season One Jack: “I will fix you…”
We’re back to man of science and man of fate…
YAY Locke!!!! Ready to get out of this chair~
@ Colleen & Laura/SDOrioles: I’m not believing anyone is dead until I see the bodies! lol
you call him the monster, but i call him………….
The music is getting to me again.
so kate can still be a candidate
Oh snap…”just a line of chalk in a cave”
oh thank god about Kate. She was crossed off because she became a Mother. That answers that.
Jacob’s speech starts to explain LOST.
I KNEW IT!
Wow it’s gonna be Kate. Weird.
how noble of Jack!
!!
@Jess that is the best line this episode.
Of course it would be Jack…always fixing things, why should the island be any different?
Wow. No hesitation. No thinking about it. Just balls to the wall. Oh, Jack. You’ve come so far.
Wow - didn’t think we would get the choice answer tonight
What will everyone be doing next week at this time? Watching Glee?
It had to be jack. Just HAD to be. No one else made sense.
JACK SHEPHERD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a guy!
and Jack finally finds his purpose.
also, can we finally say that Jacob’s brother is actually Smokey, and not that Smokey took his form?
Ok I think we’ll see jack’s baby mama at end tonight at the concert… I’m guessing Juliette!!
that was too easy. jack is a goner.
Okay, last week’s episode makes so much more sense and works so much better now!
“I made a mistake.”
“I couldn’t kill him.” - Because Mother said he couldn’t? Perhaps Mother’s rules are why Smokey can’t kill the candidates–they’ve inherited the protection from Jacob.
Does that protection end when one of them becomes the new protector?
Also, “because you became a mother” - beautiful!
I think everyone could of guess that Jack was going to be the new Jacob.
Did anyone else expect Jack to get shot just now?
Jack’s babymama is Anna Lucia…
@Will Listening to podcasts
I have a bad feeling, they gave us the choice too quickly.
9 more minute left …. Sunday is going to be tough
So I thought Richard couldn’t die….Is he really dead? And if so, don’t you think Jack needs to replace him
Just a tip for everyone while we are on commercial - Jay and Jack are recording their Thursday podcast tomorrow because Jack leaves for LA Thursday morning. If you wanted to call them and have a good chance to get on the show (if you didn’t tonight) then trying tomorrow morning would be a good bet to at least be heard. Jay likes calls under 1 minute - 1:15 the best. Figured I’d give out some tips on the last regular LOST night that you’d get to call in. How strange to say that.
I may be losing it, but um where is Miles???
@stephanie, i hope jacks baby mama will be juliette, but i really think it will be anna lucia
oh no, they’re not going to air these messages at the bottom of the show, that would be so annoying….worse than the V clock….
PLEASE tell me they aren’t going to show text messages during the actual finale…that’ll just piss me and a bunch of other people off, ABC!
Really? Their selling LOST text messages? Really?
I would of been funny if the whole thing with Jacob and the water didn’t work.
@Stopher I’ve said that all along. I have a feeling Ana Lucia and Juliette are going to be at the concert to make us wonder a little longer
Yeah, Stefanie. Forgot about him.
@hopeformama: I agree… that would be so annoying
hahahahahaha funniest line Sawyer’s said in a really, really, really long time.
Ok, the last two lines of Sawyer and Hurley are classic.